Can I add better than gravy?

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Can I add better than gravy to the pot with the stock?

A New Light · Accepted Answer

Hi there yes you totally can but i am re editing this recipe with my own inspiration plus the help of generating my thoughts cohesively with chatgpt

1. First extraction

Beef roast + first potatoes + carrots + onion + garlic + thyme + tarragon + pepper + water.
Bring to a gentle simmer, not a violent boil.

Cook until the beef is extremely tender and the collagen has broken down.
Remove the beef.

2. Concentrate the stock
Strain the liquid.
Remove the first potatoes and vegetables.
Reduce the stock aggressively until intensely beefy and concentrated.

Then Blend the cooked carrots/onion with some of the reduction if you want additional body and sweetness.

Avoid blending the potatoes into the sauce because their starch can make it gluey.

3. Create the second Maillard layer
Pat the cooked beef dry.
Brown the beef very aggressively in a fresh pan/pot.
Remove it.
In the same pan, brown fresh onion.
Add fresh garlic, pepper, thyme, and tarragon briefly.

Deglaze with the concentrated beef stock, scraping up all the browned material.

4. Reunite everything
Add the vegetable-beef purée.
Stir thoroughly.
Reduce slightly until everything is deeply integrated.
Add a small amount of cornstarch slurry gradually until the sauce reaches a thick, glossy consistency. Don't automatically use the full 3 Tbsp.

5. Shred and bind
Shred the browned, tender beef into fine strands.
Return it to the sauce.

Gently cook and fold until the concentrated sauce coats and fills the spaces between the strands.

Let it settle briefly so the gelatin and sauce tighten around the meat.

6. Second set of vegetables
Separately cook carrots, and other desired vegetables.
These are for eating and texture, rather than extraction.

and in our recipe, the first potatoes absolutely can be repurposed instead of wasted.

The one complication is that these potatoes were cooked in the beef stock with the other ingredients, so they're going to be very different from freshly boiled potatoes:
They'll have absorbed beef flavor and gelatin-rich liquid.

They'll likely be softer and wetter.
Depending on how long they cooked, they may be somewhat waterlogged.
They may already contain onion/herb/beef flavors.

But that can actually be a feature.
I'd turn them into a beef-infused mash
After removing them from the stock:
Drain them extremely well.

Let them steam-dry for a few minutes.
While still hot, pass them through a potato ricer.
Add butter.
Add a small amount of warm milk/cream, only as needed.

Season carefully because they've already absorbed seasoned beef stock.
Fold gently.

Don't aggressively beat them with a blender or food processor. That can rupture the potato cells and release excess starch, giving you gluey mashed potatoes.

The overall concept
First potatoes/vegetables: extraction and flavor building.
First beef: collagen and beef flavor extraction.
Reduced stock: concentrated beef essence.
Second beef browning: Maillard depth.
Fresh aromatics in the second pan: additional roasted/fresh flavor.
Cornstarch: final texture adjustment, not the main source of richness.
Shredded beef: maximum surface area for sauce integration.
Second vegetables: fresh texture and contrast.
The core sequence is:
Extract → Strain → Reduce → Purée → Brown → Deglaze → Reunite → Reduce → Lightly thicken → Shred → Bind → Finish.