I tried making this the first go around and had trouble controlling the toasting of the oatmeal. The next attempt, I used my toaster oven and spread the oatmeal flakes on a tray which I toasted with walnuts. It was much easier for me to control. After the toasting, I made oatmeal using the step-by-step process of adding the plant-based milk. I also added maple syrup at the end instead of using brown sugar. It was really quite delicious.